Lazy Man and Money. May 5, by Lazy Man Comments. Le-Vel tried to sue me for the article below… AND I WON! I have provided this information so that you can make an informed decision.

To me, this looks to be just another one of the plethora of scams and schemes out there. If not… perhaps this could be one to look into and write about for future articles.

Earlier this month, Talking Points Memo wrote a great article about MLM which featured a Le-vel distributor: How Utah Became a Bizarre, Blissful Epicenter for Get-Rich-Quick Schemes. The aforementioned Talking Points Memo article gives an introduction to the Thrive patch. It is as good a place to start as any:. When her husband fainted outside of a hospital, she caught him.

Still, few dietary supplements have the kind of negative reviews that Thrive does, and many have been evaluated with much more thoroughness by the scientific community. Q Sciences, for instance, claims its products are backed by research at 15 universities. So why do distributors choose Thrive, in spite of so many stories about sketchy side effects? The second quote block highlights the bad reputation Thrive has. It turns out that the Dove Beauty Patch has no ingredients.

Nonetheless, the FTC makes it clear how they feel about weight loss patches:. The result is a time released delivery and absorption rate superior to most consumable products.

From a logical standpoint, I know ketchup is getting in my system when I eat it. Well, my confidence level in that is close to zero. Of course, the patch alone would be too easy. Developed from years of experience, science, and perfecting, THRIVE M is the only premium lifestyle capsule of its kind. Someone get Le-vel a thesaurus. Thrive M is essentially a multivitamin with a proprietary blend of ingredients which you can see here. The vitamins and minerals are unexciting.

With only 11 vitamins and minerals with an RDA daily value, you can do better with many other products. Reflect on that for a moment. To make matters worse, it is scientifically proven that vitamin and mineral supplements are unnecessary for the general population. See this journal article: Stop Wasting Money on Vitamin and Mineral Supplements. As the article notes, vitamin and mineral supplements could even be harmful. However, if you are going to buy one, the choice should be very obvious.

Thrive M has a proprietary blend in addition to vitamins and minerals. Actually in fairness the Kirkland vitamins do as well Ginseng at least from the description. This is your health. You should know what you are paying for. However, even if you knew how much you were getting of the ingredients, they may not benefit you. The third product is the Thrive Shake Mix.

Thrive seems to want you to buy all three products. Fortunately the shake has many of the vitamins and minerals that were missing from the multivitamin above.

You could get Spiru-Tein Shake which is about a dollar a serving and has many, many glowing reviews. MLMs love shakes and it is easy to understand why. Supplement protein, fiber, and multivitamins are extremely cheap. You can get 24 grams of protein with Optimum Nutrition Whey Protein. For fiber, you can buy this Benefiber switch to the gram size.

The 5 grams of fiber in Thrive shakes would cost you 6. In an effort to provide you with the best information, here are a couple of other sources worth reading.

Truth in Advertising is one of my favorite websites because they, like me, highlight the bits of misleading marketing that consumers should be aware of. Abby Langer writes a scathing review of Le-Vel.

Here are some of the highlights:. And neither has Thrive. Oh, I already said that. Just checking that you get that. There is really no compelling evidence that any of the ingredients in THRIVE cause weight loss. I can see why Abby Langer writes for the Huffington Post with such great insight. Iron Beaver Fitness writes: This plan is not to create a product, or a product line, but to build a global brand, a new icon. Le-Vel seems to have threatened them with a lawsuit for hosting images of the products ingredients.

But on Friday, a good friend hit me up about some energy patches… A quick Google search will tell you that these patches are part of the THRIVE eight-week fitness system, an initiative of the Le-Vel company.

I think these are two great areas to research:. I wrote this article long before HBO decided to cover Le-Vel. The FTC Chairwoman recently gave some guidance to MLMs. View the FTC guidance here. It is a little technical, because I believe the audience is MLM companies. I believe you should ask any sponsor to provide you with a written statement on how that company complies with the FTC guidance. A salesman trying to get you to join may say that they are clearly in compliance with that guidance, but I believe you should have the whole company agreeing to the FTC guidance.

This encourages people to throw two people under the bus financially to get free product for themselves. These kinds of programs highlight how overpriced the products are. As mentioned above, the pricing is banana pants crazy, which is one of a few reasons why no one would buy a MLM product from you.

That means you are typically going to be left paying for itself, which makes it look like a Pay to Play scheme. The specifics of the car bonus are left out of the compensation brochure. Typically an MLM company requires you to get a lease in your name and reimburses you as long as you maintain the level.

However, as many ViSalus distributors found out, when the pyramid implodes they are left with an expensive lease in their name, no bonus from the company, and little income from the business. You can place newly recruited people under other people you have recruited in the past. This is the kind of thing that only makes sense in the world of MLM. If you recruit a person, they should go under you.

You should get the rewards for that work. The compensation plan clearly focuses the rewards on people with the most volume in their downline, not sales to outside people.

According to these FTC guidelinesthat focus would appear to make Thrive a pyramid scheme. If the money you make is based on your sales to the public, it may be a legitimate multilevel marketing plan.

Pyramid schemes are illegal, and the vast majority of participants lose money. One of the things that most people seem to complain about is how overzealous Le-Vel distributors flood their Facebook. Of course the Le-Vel leaders want to keep this very quite so that it seems like it is naturally going viral. Whether you found what you were looking for or not in the article above, I want to help you with your financial situation. For more visit my five minute financial fixes article.

I appreciate you for just being here. The person recruiting you has a financial incentive to present only one side of the story. Kudos to you for searching for more information to make an informed decision. Between the extremely expensive products, dubious marketing, and what appears to be a pyramid scheme see aforementioned FTC guidelinesI think it is clear that Le-vel Thrive is a scam. For more on scams see: What is a Scam Anyway?

If you are really interested in helping them, suggest some of the products that I mentioned in the article or other equivalent ones from non-pyramid scheme companies that are reasonably priced. More recently it took nearly a decade for the FTC to halt Vemma for being a pyramid scheme which claimed to be a legal MLM.

In each case, consumers found out years later that they were scammed out of hundreds millions of dollars in aggregate. I agree with Former FTC Economist Peter Vander Nat, Ph. Consumers can make a complaint with the FTC here. I believe we USA have freedom of speech and freedom of the press.

The courts agreed that I published this article for you at least in my reading. I often update articles as new information comes in. Instead it typically means that I have more information that I deem is worth sharing in a specific section. Some updates are minor. Noting their dates and times would extend this article needlessly. Other updates are larger.

As a courtesy to readers, I try to balance the timing of the update with the context of the update itself. September 12, at I got pulled into this by a really good friend because it worked wonders for her. I also wanted to ask, my husband and I have both had lower back pain for years.

My husband was the worst and now he is PAIN FREE for the first time in 2 years but now we have stopped the patch stopping one thing at a time his pain is coming back. Could you recommend an alternative for whatever the hell has taken away our lower back pain that is in thrive? Appreciate your help and will try keep an eye on this post: Thrive is overpriced, over stimulants that no human really needs to take!!! October 5, at 6: Amy, the reduction in pain is coming from the white willow bark that is in their supplements.

White willow contains salicin, which is an anti-inflammatory that has been proven to help with back pain. Willow bark has been used for years to treat pain, and works very similarly to aspirin but in far smaller doses. I would suggest that your husband looks into a willow bark supplement! October 5, at 7: October 6, at The safe assumption is that the amount provided by the patch is insufficient to do anything.

As far as I can tell, there are no ingredients in any of the Thrive patches that would relieve chronic lower back pain, nor are any of their products advertised for such a purpose. The inevitable conclusion is that you are making a mistaken causal inference. Yes, consult with a licensed medical professional instead of soliciting medical advice from strangers on a personal finance blog. What exactly does it claim to be? And why are MLM scammers always so needlessly vague?

Rhetorical question BTW; we know why. Again, effective for what? Feigned outrage is the MLMers stock and trade. That question should be reverse engineered to begin with the premise that it is a scam; therefore, how could it possibly do anything? Amy B says it relieves lower back pain. Claims like that which have absolutely no logical basis or supportive evidence and are prohibited by law? September 12, at 8: So I have read up a bit, I am sorry lazyman that you have a law suit against you.

I get jittery and a wired SPEED feeling a few minutes after having the shake…. When I stopped the patches I went almost numb to emotions…. I am generally a happy go lucky person but this knocked me for six. When my husband stopped the patches…. We are now both off the patches fully and happy. NOW we have dropped to 1 pill a day instead of 2 and half a shake every 2 days instead of a whole one every 2 days. Why should I have to do this. I have stopped even talking about it.

I feel really bad for the couple of people I have signed up and have now told them that I am stopping and my reasoning as to why. This stuff IS NOT GOOD FOR YOU!!! You know how I know, PERSONAL RESEARCH on MY OWN BODY!! What are the long term effects of this stuff?

Seriously, think of that before you take it!!! March 31, at 6: I have never heard about anyone weaning themselves off of thrive. Sorry you have no clue what you are doing or talking about. Yes, I have gone off the product on a few occasions and the only side effect was I went back to being the tired run down person I was prior to thrive.

Oh I forgot to add. The patch has White Willow Bark in it. Aspirin is made from White Willow Bark. Why do Le-Vel need to put ASPIRIN into something that is taken every day!!! Totally unnecessary if you ask me. THIS is why we had lost our lower back pain. September 13, at The active component in willow bark is salicin, which is present in willow bark at a proportion of about 0.

The oral dose of salicin required to relive back pain is in the range of mg to mg. One would have to consume at least 1 to 3 g of white willow bark to achieve a therapeutic dose of salicin. The Thrive Patch lists willow bark as one of its ingredients but does not specify the amount. The main problem with the premise that willow bark in the patch produces pain relief is that it is a virtual certainty that that patch does not contain enough bark extract to produce therapeutic salicin concentrations in the blood following topical dosing.

September 22, at 3: September 26, at 2: The positive side is that the amount of people has peaked and decreased… Thing about a pyramid is the bottom can only get so big before you run out of suckers. What was it they say about a fool and his money?

September 27, at In fact, I can spot them from across the store as soon as I walk in. Ratty clothes, outdated laptop, brochures spread across the table, reek of desperation and failure. October 11, at 1: There is no MLM company that is worthy of their so called superior products.

They are the newest of cults and people are just flocking to them. October 15, at 2: A promoter used my son, husband, and granddaughter in a advertisement for Thrive in that it helps with cancer. It was done without our consent.

Le-Vel can only hurt your body, just read the ingredients! The stimulants can cause you harm. October 17, at 1: I am sorry to hear what happened to your family. They seem to be a pyramid scam, who are only interested in making money. Do you still have the advertisement where they claim it helps with cancer? I am a college student doing research into thrive and I hope to help other people but I need evidence. Thank you and I hope you and your family are doing well.

October 19, at 4: I have been on Thrive for 2 months now. I have lost 15 pounds, I am full of energy, I sleep better, my digestive system is on track for the first time in years.

I know a woman with Lupus that has been taken off some of her medication because she no longer needs it thanks to Thrive. This product has helped so many people.

And they never claim to cure anything. By giving you everything that your body actually needs, it makes you healthier, however that presents itself in your body is up to your body.

Almost anyone can make money selling Thrive. My upline and her husband sell Thrive for a living, their cars are paid for by the company, their house is paid for, they are financially independent, and Le-Vel has sent them on 6 free lifestyle getaways. Any product looks bad if you only look at the bad reviews. But the good experiences far outweigh the bad when it comes to Thrive. October 19, at I said that for her, specifically, she has been able to stop taking so much medicine because of thrive.

I never said hey take Thrive because it cures lupus. It is an individualized experience, everyone reacts differently. December 30, at 6: When in doubt, speak in ways that create deniability, yet still in a misleading way.

Mary Ann Peeden says. April 29, at 2: Sounds like a distributor. Some of my friends are using it with awesome results they are distributors.

I tried it for 7 weeks and quickly became tolerant to the stimulants and would have a horrible crash in the late afternoon. October 21, at 1: I want to thank you for this article. I thought she meant putting an advertising wrap on my car, but oh no! She meant signing people up for thrive.

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I have yet to get any real information from her. She cannot produce any literature that spells out the compensation structure or the business plan. And I found it difficult to get any real info except on the links that were sited on this article. I appreciate this honest article more than you can know.

And I feel happy with my decision to pass on the scam. November 4, at 3: I fully agree with SARA!!!! Thrive is a great product! Most people get to try it before they ever are asked to buy anything.

Maybe the real scammer is you, just saying. November 4, at Is that supposed to be a revelation? How does that differ from any other product? It has no demonstrable benefits whatsoever.

It is laughable inert BS used as the admission ticket to entice desperadoes and gullible people into joining a corrupt pyramid scheme. November 5, at The only qualms I had with the company is that they: FED-EX blamed Le-Vel because the package was returned to the vendor at the request of the shipper.

I therefore paid for a product I never received until my wife, a promoter, sent them a message and they resent everything. The issue was that because I never received anything initially I called my bank and had them reimburse me for the order. So I tried to explain all of this, possibly prematurely, to them and then complained about them not having a billing department phone number so I could potentially pay them directly.

In response to my criticism they cancelled my account. I will not be ordering from them again. November 5, at 1: I suspect that bad service is built into their business model on purpose. A win for the company; a loss for consumers. November 16, at 3: Your opinion is worth as much as an old shoe. You have failed to mention anything about how how the body absorbs nutrients. Those cheap vitamins are just sitting in your GI tract.

They should sue you for this one-side, and poorly researched pile of garbage…. November 16, at 4: You are free to not absorb the information given in the post, and you are free to reject logic and wisdom.

You are free to put your head in the sand, and you are free to believe in the boogie man! Given the history of comments on this article, I think it fair to assume his opinion is worth much more than an old shoe. I would classify it more as a fine wine, as the post gets more and more valuable to more people the longer it is left online. Actually, most of them are flushed out, just like the expensive vitamins you are taking. There is no science to support one version of the vitamins is better than the other, and to this point, your view of paying more money for the same product is fundamentally flawed.

Your wish has already been granted…unfortunately. On the plus side, they are draining your assets to do it. Any money that you have been giving to Le-Vel has had a percentage taken out to perform bad lawsuits against people expressing their first amendment rights.

However, much like the products and the company itself, it will ultimately a waste of money, and Le-vel will continue to have criticism online because of the structure of the business, the false health claims, and the deceptive marketing tactics utilizing unrealistic examples of wealth.

April 9, at Look it up, this stuff acts like Ephedra which has been outlawed in the USA. The combination of synephrine, caffeine and a few other ingredients can be deadly for some who have previous problems. I had a friend give me a three day trial. The first day I tried it, my heart was racing! I checked my blood pressure and it was insanely high. Day two, I took the vitamins and drank the shake but did not put the patch on.

It still made me feel like crap, so I began researching the ingredients. When I posted my research on Facebook, I was attacked. One of the promoters put a note up saying that Level stated there was no ephedra in their product.

I never said it had ephedra in it!!!! LOL Liars trying to deflect! April 10, at I agree thrive is a waste. However, many supplements are good. For example, I have noticed a big difference when taking selenium and brown seaweed for iodine.

It has helped my thyroid a great deal. Told me that the generic target brand prenatal were just as good as prescription. If vitamins are crap, why bother telling pregnant women to take them? When my dad was in ICU, the doctors made us go home and get his Ester-C and a few other supplements he was taking. April 10, at 1: Lesley72, I think you have a few different arguments here. I will give you my opinion, but I think you should consult a doctor.

In case you missed the above, consult your doctor. Please, please, please refer to 1. Again, I suggest you talk to your doctors and see what they say about it.

Please use the same email address you left in this comment. It is a reaction to help readers. Lawyers also agree that to the full context of the comment. November 16, at 9: America is a land of laws, and the law forbids deceptive marketing of Thrive products, especially as medicinal agents.

If, after being properly informed that your product is BS, someone still chooses to buy it, I would have no objection. But no informed consumer would ever buy your product without the pyramid scheme and misleading product claims. Your bitchy threadbare sniping, on the other hand, is utterly worthless. The only failure is with your unrealistic expectations. Pretty much any inexpensive supermarket multivitamin is going to be absorbed just fine.

You should be paraded down Main Street in a dunce cap and pelted with tomatoes for that moronic post. December 22, at 3: What are you gonna do with all your free time Vogel? Trip little kids on their way to school, kick over old woman in wheel chairs, steal pacifiers from babies?

So many options for that twisted little brain of yours. December 22, at This critically-acclaimed website aimed at helping people achieve financial freedom through savings and investing is in no danger of getting shut down. December 3, at 7: December 3, at 9: No, I HAVE been sued by the company. December 5, at I became a promoter about a month ago.

I truly put effort into introducing the product to others because my husband and I actually love it. I was brought in my a friend that was able to purchase my startup kit for me, so I got to start for free. Now, I have done nothing but spend money trying to make money that is not how a job is supposed to work -first red flag. My husband and I could never afford to purchase these products at the prices listed on the forex investment management companies so I tried hard to entry level stock broker jobs london two people to purchase a package a piece so we could get ours free.

I truly believed in the product. It never happened, no one could afford it and I understood. Im glad I didnt make a sale so that I didnt actually harm anyone financially. But I genuinely feel bad for signing up a few others as promoters. Trailer Park Tracey says. December 23, at If this business is really killing it, like they say they are, then why are they meeting with growth capital investors and high interest rate lenders to finance the business?

I assume the owners are trying to get as much money out of the business before it tanks. If you look up both owners, they are professional MLM creators. They work the MLMs until the market gets saturated or in the case of one of the owners, they get shut down for fraud they then pack up, sell everything, screw over those involved in the business and move on to the next marketing catch phrase they can build pyramid scheme around.

January 5, at 8: You have some impressive data here. I can assure you; Thrive a scam? I have been a thriver for over a year now. Stock options taxes capital gains is not a weight loss supplement.

And as a result your body experiences. January 5, at First of all Thrive is not meant to be used specifically as a weight loss supplement. It has been proven to work and many celebrities even use Thrive! And second of all…. Nobody can be forced to purchase it…. Protein shakes cost just as much as the lifestyle shakes. Everyone had their own opinion and experiences and not everyone will like it….

January 5, at 3: You are absolutely correct! People make bad choices all the time, but Thrive does a great job of teaching their sales force to manipulate and deceive give people bad or incorrect how much money do a dental assistants make in saskatchewan in order to sell more product.

Again, no resources and just flat wrong. MLM shakes are always more expensive than the rest of the competitors and LM does a great deposit forex melalui paypal of showing that your companies prices are extremely high.

It may be time to pull your head out of the sand and actually read the article instead of postulating a bunch of crap. January 5, at 6: And celebrities you say??? How could that possibly go wrong? Oh yeah, like this…What a dolt! Markups are typically 10 to 25 times higher than comparable retail products. This feature is baked into MLM because paying out commissions to an inefficient distributor base inflates their overhead enormously.

I dunno, but I think I might like to give you a vigorous one; might wake you up and knock some sense and basic decency into you.

January 5, at 4: Which is about the same as the lifestyle shakes. It is not a scam. January 5, at 5: Even if the ounces are the same, there may be a difference in price if one container has 30 servings and the other has Who cares if you have done something for months…you are the least reliable witness as you have a financial bias and an ineptitude for logic.

You sound like the moron from the movie Idiocracy. According to this valuable institution, The Mayo Clinic, http: Regardless of their effectiveness, the bottom line is this is a financial blog and you are arguing a tangent like the rest of the shills from your company. There is not a general transcription work at home jobs advantage to buying Le-Vel but rather a detriment.

There is not a vitamin advantage, because vitamins are not an advantage. Shakes have been proven time and time again virtual trading indian stock market be a gimmick at best and a complete failure at worst.

They are sometimes a short term fix, but mostly end up being a waste of time and money. Seriously no need to be so rude and nasty.

I am not someone who goes around spreading lies and making money off people. Nor do they lie and make outrageous promotional claims of any kind. I can get a good multivitamin on sale for an average price of about stock market today backtesting software cents a day.

May 28, at 5: Bull, I buy protein shake mix in a much bigger container for how much money do a dental assistants make in saskatchewan the price and I get even better results. Also if you do not live in America, do the math hunny, the price including shipping and exchange rate! January 6, at 8: Not only are you claiming to only be lock stock and two smoking barrels wiki the products while leaving out the business opportunity, but you are also claiming that they work.

You are either the worst kind of scummy manipulative liar, OR you are one of the dumbest members of society. You are either in denial or a heretic, and either way, you are a scummy person for continuing to associate yourself with and defend a company like Le-Vel. If you think the definition of research is lie and deceive, then yes you have done a lot of research. You are worse than a gullible person, you are a hypocrite, a liar, and a cheat. January 6, at 9: Why are we suppose to believe you over anyone else??

I came across this article because as I said…. If you knew anything about Thrive you would know that the Lifestyle shakes and Thrives brand of shakes that contain many vitamins that our bodies need. And like I said…I do not coding jobs from home tennessee it I just use the product….

It can be used without having to sell it imagine that!!!! January 6, at Are those serious questions? I supplied you with facts, unbiased resources, and informed conclusions based on those resources. You spout nonsense that is unfounded from twisted salespersons that told you how to present your philosophy, or worse, you just simply made your crap up.

Your perspective is suspect at best, but quite frankly useless. But I do know you and the rest of the shills who support companies like Le-Vel. You are all the same, and as I continue to evolve and grow in this field, you people continue to stay stagnant with the same nonsensical programmed responses.

You clovis livestock auction market report the same English skills as a 3rd grader, you have the same cognitive abilities of a person with a low IQ, and you are incredibly gullible.

Again, I do know who you are, you people are all the same. The denial has kicked into full force now. Both Vogel and I have proven lifestyle shakes and their vitamins are not what the body needs, and they continue to be an outlandishly expensive product that is not competitive in the market place.

However, that does not seem to penetrate your thick skull as you continue to repeat yourself and your ridiculous unfounded philosophy in a pitiful attempt to have some kind of correctness. This is the last futile attempt from a limited person with limited cognition.

Well, that is not something to be proud of either. It is quite clear that my comments mean nothing to you, because your mind is made up and evidence, facts, and logic will not penetrate your brain. Your head is so deep in the sand you may as well be digging to China. English skills of a 3rd grader and a low IQ. Your rude comments say a lot about what kind of person you are.

And your nasty comments honestly make you look like an idiot yourself. Just like there are many many people who go to the store and buy vitamins. The comments you have made about that actually make you sound stupid not me.

Anyone can buy anything they want forex signals rss not be promoting it. With Thrive your getting vitamins, minerals, enzymes, probiotics, antioxidants, plant extracts, protein, and fiber.

Thrive helps with joint support, inflammation support, lean muscle support, digestive and immune support, cognitive performance, and weight management. January 6, at 1: January 6, at 3: I spend my money on it because it works for me. My bank account is nobodies business but mine and my husbands. And yes our bodies do need vitamins.

And there is not one single person who eats healthy everyday of their life. January 6, at 5: Is there some reason you are defending something that is obviously NOT for everyone? The website and pushers should tell people that it contains a possible allergen and that it is not just vitamins and nutrients. January 6, at 7: For anyone who chooses to take vitamins anyway, it would be insane to opt for Thrive because it is ridiculously overpriced and any money spent on the products feeds an exploitative pyramid scheme.

The value proposition is a no-brainer. Vanguard 401k fund options people take vitamins because they mistakenly think doing so will compensate for a poor diet. But as far as foolish decisions go, the best value proposition is to not bonus 30 instaforex for idiotic MLM products.

A good quality retail multivitamin can be had for as little as about 7 cents a day. And you say it provides inflammation support???

The last thing I would want is a product that supports inflammation. Your time is worth about a dollar an hour. They must be thankful for the reprieve.

See ya later scammer! Lean muscle is a concept related to lean body mass, which is the content of the body minus fat. Lean body mass is used to calculate basal metabolic rate. Lean muscle is less of a scientific term and more a term of art that refers to muscle that is independent of, and not obscured by, fat. And again, how stupid I am? Walk a day in my shoes then we will see what you think my time is worth. I will not stoop to your level of name calling.

My bank account is nobodies sic business but mine and my husbands sic. Nobody gives a flying F about why you choose to make indefensibly stupid financial decisions, like buying horrifically overpriced vitamins from a bunch forex trading training commodity forex online trade 212 degenerate pyramid schemers.

You can choose to burn money with a tobacco stock market for all I care. The purpose of this site is to guide consumers to make better financial decisions. Your choice to make bad financial decisions serves as a cautionary tale, nothing else.

You MLM binary options mike are such horrifically bad liars. But your impressions of what you think a smart person sounds like are truly hysterical to witness. No one needs to eat healthy every day of their life to get the vitamins they need. January 7, at 1: A nursing assistant certification assuming you even have that can be obtained in as little as 6 weeks with only a high school diploma as a prerequisite.

I would also predict with a high degree of certainty that you would abuse your minor petty position as a nursing assistant to sell worthless Thrive products to unsuspecting naifs. These were not posted by actual Facebook user accounts but rather by the company itself.

They are all virtually identical with the exception of the author names used: Kristina Hibbert, Megan Hart, and Amanda Encinas. One of them, Kristina Hibbert, even claims, just as you did, to be a mother of a child with special earnest money deposit default. The only question I have is whether Le-vel buys these BS manufactured testimonials in bulk, or they have some little troll in their office whose job is to pen this crap every day and post it to Facebook.

Even your claims to be a mother and a women are suspect. You seem much more like a troll inventing BS to deceive people.

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January 7, at 3: I am a mother of and autistic child and have busted my ass to take care of him and make sure he gets everything he needs. You are one heartless person. My son has overcome more obstacles in his 15 years than most of us do in a lifetime. And yes you know what I did say I have worked in healthcare and in the nursing field, which includes nursing assistants!!

There is so much more to being a nursing assistant but I guess your just too ignorant to notice. Let me just fill you in a little bit…. But the most important part of the job is caring for the people…. Now tell me again how all I do is wipe asses and clean vomit??? People like you make me sick…. And you have the audacity to talk my children saying they may not exist!!!!

This is the last you will hear from me…. I will not sit here and be treated like an idiot when in fact I probably know much more than you do. Have a wonderful how is stock market regulated January 7, at 8: You could have attempted to be honest from the get-go and told us that you were a nursing assistant instead of trying to posture as something more than that.

A scammer til the bitter end. While you try to sell them your worthless hocus-pocus patches. Your modus operandi is clear. You prey upon the sick, vulnerable, ignorant, and desperate. I said nothing about your alleged son, insulting or otherwise. So you can take the gauntlet you just threw down and slap yourself upside the head with it.

Do you mean forward fx rates eur usd this time? More insincerity on your part. Lucky would be never having had to sit through your tiresome insipid BS in the first place. I love changing lives! January 6, at 2: No, purchasing exorbitantly expensive generic products makes you look like an idiot.

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Not understanding their marketing and what they are used for makes you look like an idiot. Supporting a corrupt business and continuing to defend their misleading products makes you look like an idiot.

If I told you that many people were rubbing horse manure on their face because it is great for acne, would that be sufficient evidence Rhetorical question? Your reckless disregard for your bank account is another example of your idiocy. This sounds like more regurgitated crap your sponsor told you. You are correct that Thrive is not for everyone, but the better way of putting it is, Thrive is not for ANYONE. Thank you for the kind words. Hopefully your family will snap out of it sooner rather than later.

Unfortunately, these MLMs have been around for a long time and they are very good at programming people with their rhetoric. January 6, at 4: Rebecca you missed the point entirely. Either your nursing has nothing to do with health science and nutrition, or you are in complete denial over the fact that nutritional shakes are not effective at their objective.

This is officially the dumbest thing you have written to date. Your first statement is more obvious fluff, but your second statement continues to be flat wrong. There are many people that live a completely healthy lifestyle and eat good foods. It would appear the healthcare standards have deteriorated even worse than I could have imagined.

January 7, at 4: Rebecca, please explain your crusade to defend Le-vel products.

With your comments ip, a who-is search could be performed on it, or similar comments across the web could be easily identified with some coordination. Now Train tickets from stockholm to copenhagen, before you cut loose on me, why would you waste your time doing so? I have to go on the internet to spread this news! January 7, at 5: I am just a customer. I started out just by saying how it has worked for me and how it has been a good investment for myself because I like the product.

I know I need to let it go it just irks me that someone is so judgmental and such a name called without even knowing me. And then to attack my career and my children is very uncalled jeep wrangler parts dallas tx. January 7, at 6: Starting at the source never came to mind?

So for your anonymous self to take offense to replies posted here is unbelievable. You need to seek psychiatric help! The top brass are probably irked by your performace here. No one believes that for forex rynek walutowy dla początkujących inwestorów pdf instant. Below are a few choice examples; these are not the words of an ordinary customer:.

Ignoring the blatant rah-rah Thrive cheer-leading, these are not the comments of an ordinary customer but rather someone who is professing to have insider knowledge about the company. You sound like a Thrive brochure. As for your alleged children, no one came even remotely close to attacking them.

Woah woah woah…that is not how you started out. You started out making bold, unsubstantiated claims such as:. You have tried to provide counter-points about people needing vitamins completely unrelated to the article and incorrectincorrect theses about price which have been stock market volatility in kenyaand attempted to project an unsubstantiated claim about protein shakes being beneficial again not pertinent to the article, and also wrong.

Rebecca, instead of focusing on the name calling, perhaps you should focus on relevant and accurate details. If you want to be taken more seriously, once again, utilize resources to support your opinions, use a dictionary to understand what certain words mean, and take the time to make grammatically accurate sentences and paragraphs.

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January 7, at 9: What I care about is logic, factual accuracy, honesty, and a willingness to learn. Lazy Man is trying to stock market crash signaling the great depression of 1929 consumers to protect their money and not get scammed — a very noble goal without question.

You are interfering with that aim by stock market yearly charts misinformation. That in itself would be forgivable if you were to come around after being corrected, but you do not — you double down on BS.

The distinctive biographical details you have provided align quite closely with Kristina Hibbert, a Le-Vel distributor who, like you, also claims to be a nursing assistant with a special needs child. I know that being a mother can be challenging; and of a child with special needs, especially so.

In fact, if someone resorted to being a prostitute, drug dealer, or burglar to get by, I could wrap my head around that moral dilemma and refrain from judging them too harshly — if they were clear-eyed about what they are doing and why they were doing it.

MLMers seem to think that it is their God-given right to prey on those among us who are the weakest — poor, gullible, sick, desperate, unsuspecting, and well-meaning; to rob Peter to pay Paul; to pass the buck by giving their misery to someone else.

So instead, the best advice I can give peter schiff stock market crash 2016 to walk away from MLM and never look back.

Find an honest profession and one that pays at least minimum wage, pakistan currency rate in uae today every MLM in history.

Or find a dishonest profession, like sticking people up at gunpoint, but drop the pretense of co-opting the moral high ground and pretending to be smart. January 8, at Hey Lazy Man, so you know, I found ya out of curiosity.

If there was anything out there to help educate people who are forex live gbp vs inr irretrievably stupid like my siblings, who are caught up in MLM scams. The stores are about to close! Anyway, thanks for putting this out there, Lazy Man. And the comments from your intelligent readers! It wont help my sisters, but it will help others.

January 8, at 7: Before the edit it was dumb siblings. And an update on the one from this weekend had a 3 babylon livestock trading company ltd totally screwed my head upour decline seemed to have pushed her to post twice about Thrive on Facebook today. January 10, at 3: Why are people using it? I have been diagnosed with autoimmune disease and the pain levels and fatigue were ruling my life.

This goes WAY beyond just tiredness. This is a feeling of every ounce of energy just being totally drained from you. So I thought, what have I got to lose? It has made a total difference in my life.

At a recent funeral bnm forex rates our church, I was on my feet for several hours, helping serve dinner to the family and attendees and cleaning up afterwards.

Every joint in my body is affected. Before I was always at awith bouts of And bnm forex rates fatigue is a thing of the past. So why do people take this? I will personally never be without it again.

How is stock market regulated 10, at 6: The other reason some people buy it as that unscrupulous distributors like yourself go around breaking the law by claiming that this BS snakeoil alleviates diseases and their symptoms.

In all likelihood, doing so would aggravate the condition; at best it would do nothing. What you would have lost was money and respect; that is, if the story was true. Facts talk, BS walks. Besides, Thrive has a sordid reputation for unfounded and illegal medicinal claims. The product is not marketed as pain reliever so why should anyone expect it to relieve pain? I dare you to try to prove me wrong. January 11, at 8: What you just said makes no sense! Ipo indian stock market done buy it just to make commissions!

Why would someone spend their own money to buy from themselves so that they can get a commission? January 11, at 9: Actually, what you said makes no sense.

People continue to buy it to make commissions, because that is the way the distributorship is set up. As Le-Vel puts it on their website:.

When you have 2 personal Customers enrolled in the Autoship Program, you how to make money origami lotus flower eligible to receive free product each and every month as long as they continue their Autoship.

Again, Rebecca your lack of understanding about this company is either purposefully neglectful calypso trading system manual utter stupidity. Uh…because this company is a scam. You are not a sales person when fxpro broker forex sign up for MLM, but rather exchange rate chart euro dollar glorified customer with the outrageous duty of undying loyalty and patronage.

Yes you can become a promoter of you want too. Or you can remain a customer. And being a customer, like myself, you so not get any commissions.

The k my way you get commissions is if you become a promoter. January 11, at 4: And being a customer, like myself, you so not sic get any commissions. The k my sic way you get commissions is if you become a promoter. You seem to be losing whatever grasp of English you once had. Did that comment arise from a cat walking across your keyboard?

January 11, at I have no reason to lie. I am not a distributor. I could easily prove it to you. I could show you my medical records showing what I have been diagnosed with. I could show you the records of having to have shots in my spine to deal with the pain.

But with your attitude, none of this would make any difference to you. You would just say it was fabricated. I know I am telling the truth. The Lord Jesus Christ knows I am telling the truth and I do not need your approval.

I know what Thrive has done for me personally. I do not know why you are so hateful, but I will pray for you. To have so much hate you must be miserable. January 11, at 6: Whoa… I guess the last few replies to Rebecca, plus my story, scared them at Le-vel. No way were they gonna let this post end with those comments, so here is ThrivingIn to the rescue!

I am glad Thrive has helped you! I agree…I do not know why this person is so miserable and hateful…so quick to judge and call names! Thrive is amazing and no you do not have to promote it…it is possible to just be a customer. I hope you co Tunis to feel better!!! Rebecca, it is obvious that you are a terribly disgruntled distributor that is trying to prevent people from seeing the truth.

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You have no concept of how Thrive works, how the distributorship works, or how business works. Your continued shenanigans on this forum have further proven that Thrive preys on the weak-minded and uneducated members of society in an effort to line their pockets. I hope you co Tunis [continue] to feel better!!! Do you run around to websites that contradict your opinions on other products as well? Do you have the same passion and fervor for other generic or ordinary products, such as, soda, toilet paper, or tuna fish?

There are no customers of any products that develop this level of insane brand loyalty without some kind of bias. Nobody is believing your ridiculous passion as a customer as you continue to talk as though you are a part of the cult following for Thrive. As a distributor or paid troll you would have every reason to lie, and Le-Vel distributors lie chronically. How could the Mother Theresa of MLM possibly be lying?

OK, great; have at it. No one is asking any more of you than that. Glad you are willing to co-operate.

Start proving your case. My attitude — one of skepticism — is perfectly warranted. Any rational person would understand that. No sane person would expect people to blindly accept outlandish product claims from an anonymous voice on the internet, and you have no reason to expect people to suspend their commonsense disbelief regarding your claims.

The fact that you are unwilling to provide any evidence that your claims are true, despite claiming to have such evidence, only proves what I suspected from the get-go — lying troll. I do wish you a Happy New Year.

I have a pretty low opinion of lying MLM scammers though. And you know what you can do with your insincere prayers and well wishes right? The last thing I want is some BSing blasphemer praying for me. Make outlandish and illegal claim about Le-Vel alleviating the symptoms of an autoimmune disease. Inexplicably get horribly offended when people are skeptical justifiably of the outlandish claim.

I agree…I do not know why this person is…so quick to judge and call names! What did you expect, a standing ovation? Surely you knew what you were getting yourself into when you signed up to play for the dark side. January 29, at January 29, at 9: Today it showed for a second, but then it went invisible. Maybe you should post a linked thumbnail to your GoFundMe page, plus a hyperlink within your message. I was gonna test this post on multiple browsers at http: Thank you for providing this information and calling out what is really going here!

January 12, at 7: Guys — let us not forget, the founder of this company has been accused of credit card fraud in the past. January 13, at 1: This conversation is all too familiar.

You guys beat up on those of us who were marketing Yevo and the slams, insults, and arguments are nearly exactly the same. Why all the negativity? Also, one has the opportunity to create an income stream from home with very little up front investment. This is generally not possible with most products from box stores.

January 13, at 9: Susan the Yevo troll is back after a long hiatus licking her wounds. Still extolling the virtues of MLM even after Yevo went tits up in spectacular fashion. She made a complete fool of herself trying and failing to defend Yevo, and all the while I warned her that the company was a ridiculous fraud and would soon go bust.

MLMers are like poison! January 14, at 8: Susan the Troll said: You proved it on the Yevo board time and time again. Not only did you display stunning ignorance but were also completely impervious to factual information. I bash idiots who post false, misleading, or nonsensical information, as you did on the Yevo board. You posted complete BS daily, often multiple times a day, for a year, and you used no less than 7 sockpuppet aliases in the process aka Jodi Unruh, aka Tim Robinson, aka Alex Severn, aka Jeff Becker, aka Frank Smith, aka Joe Blace, aka Susan, etc.

That Herculean but entirely useless waste of energy was something that can truly be called astonishing. Get ahold of your congressman and get them to change the way out economy works.

No one here expressed any interest at all, serious or otherwise, about changing the way our free market system or economy work. There are already laws in place that prohibit pyramid scheming, deceptive marketing, and selling snakeoil. With regard to neutering Yevo, the company that you shilled and lied for, there was no need whatsoever to petition for any laws to be changed.

All that was needed was to provide consumers reliable information proving that the company was a travesty and to file a few complaints with the FDA and FTCand within a few short months, poof, it was gone. I derive great pleasure in providing the public with reliable factual information that unscrupulous MLM organizations try to suppress and malign; like you did with Yevo.

It took a while to take Monavie down, but Yevo went bust within a little over a year after I first started posting comments and analysis about the company and its products. I bet Vasayo will get torpedoed in half that time. January 14, at 9: This is a classic!

Yevo is a great company and I stand by it!! A little more than a year later, Yevo went bust, hanging all the recruits out to dry in the process and leaving nothing more than a faint fishy aftertaste — just like their shitty overpriced snakeoil products.

Geoff, what proof do you have of this? Anecdotal evidence points to the average Thrive user and distributor being middle class, educated, and health conscious. Where are you getting that most people using Thrive are weak-minded and uneducated?

Network marketing has been around decades and there are literally tens of thousands of references on the topic with a simple google search. What is the problem here?

What is astonishing is that you guys spend so much time on here bashing the hell out of people who are choosing, by their own free will, to be involved with a network marketing company.

I think a big part of the comments here is that you guys derive a certain amount of pleasure out of insulting and bashing people with impunity. January 13, at 2: First of all, you have twisted my words. Second of all, when has anecdotal evidence helped prove a case in MLM? MLMers are pathological liars and are taught to lie at any given moment to keep the facade. Third of all, MLMs have always targeted the dregs of society.

Over half were either minorities or under the age of Well, when you read the research and every MLMer comes here and says the same stupid things over and over again, then you should be able to figure out what is happening.

To suggest that all of the research conducted in the articles that LM has written and cited is somehow wrong is asinine. Can we stop calling it network marketing Susan? Is it too cancerous for you to call MLM by its proper name? Slavery has also been around for…thousands of years, does that make it right? Come on Susan, you are going to have to use better logic than that. That means people can say ANYTHING they want about MLM and it will pop up on a google search. To that point, there are MORE articles that write against MLM than there are in support of it.

Something that is astonishing is, your attempt to come back to a different article and pick a fight after disappearing from the Yevo argument you clearly lost. Not only have you decided to incur more negative responses, but you have also attempted to derail this conversation from the main purpose.

The article is here to talk about Le-vel and Thrie, and it is not here to talk about Yevo, your weird accusations against the people who post on this forum, or your ridiculous straw man and false equivocations.

Susan, this is, yet again, another straw man. This blog is not designed to change a market system, it is here to inform consumers about the risks of MLM and in particular Le-vel and Thrive. You are grasping at straws while leaping down the rabbit hole with this charade.

I have yet to see someone come up with an original argument for MLM Network Marketing since I started doing research on the topic over a year ago. In fact, the arguments have continued to be so similar it makes me think they all started from the same brain child Amwayand continue to be perpetuated by manipulators and con-artists merely transforming the identity of the scam while continuing to perpetuate its awful business model.

This is simply not true, never has been true, continues not to be true. Every big box store is able to stay in business because they provide a better, cheaper, and less difficult to access product.

Your logic is completely backwards, and quite frankly insane. Why not go after some of the real travesties in our society such as prescription medications. Every MLM Network Marketing company is exactly the same BS. Therefore I am against all of them. They, once again, stem from Amway which has continued to be a criminal enterprise for decades, and if you start with a piece of shit it will remain a piece of shit. Not another one of these prescription meds nut jobs.

If you are trying to suggest that there is ONE MLM company out there that offers something similar, with a product that has been clinically tested and FDA approved, then you are really bat shit crazy.

February 16, at 1: These gentleman or haters are probably all upset because they are Vitamin Reps. There is no need for such hateful comments. People are entitled to their own opinion. I have no intentions of promoting, selling or distributing it. Those of you that are so hateful, I feel sorry for your significant others because you must live such a nasty, horrible and hateful life.

You seem to have so much time on your hands to sit on the computer and beat up on someone that believes in a product that is beneficial to her.

Leave her be and go on with your miserable lives! February 16, at 3: Unless the opinion happens to be anti-Thrive, in which case you try to crap all over them. Your ham-fisted trolling is hauntingly reminiscent of that degenerate scammer Susan aka Jodi Unruh.

February 24, at 3: How can I email lazyman personally? I may be able to help with the legal part and offset the financial costs hugely. February 24, at 5: Thanks for thinking of me T-Man. March 4, at 1: You will see that the founder of this Le-Vel business has been suspected of credit card fraud in the past. March 7, at 8: Wow, Am I glad I stumbled upon this website. I have a friends daughter who is touting this and begging me to give it a shot.

Shes been in and out of trouble for quite a while and its nice seeing her so positive and upbeat about something again. I wanted to help her out and maybe lose a little weight too! Shes been selling this for 2 months, how is that even possible? It it for real or just another way to suck someone else in? March 11, at 9: I used to love the shakes, because I could drink one and focus to clean house, etc.

Everything they make is full of stimulants…pretty much every product except their probiotic lol. My friend, who is a promoter, has developed horrible anxiety but refuses to get off Thrive. It increased ten-fold on Thrive. She now takes anti-anxiety meds and still takes Thrive products…all of them.

She refuses to acknowledge the stimulants she is consuming. Her anxiety is so bad, it prevents them for, taking trips, etc. Thrive recently came out with a nootropic. I received an email stating since i ordered shakes, I could order the new produce early.

She added they have such confidence in their products being all natural, high quality. I told her belladonna and hemlock are natural, too. No way will I order something that has no ingredients listed. She got it to me a few days later…of course it has caffeine in it and is another proprietary blend. The patch, pills, shakes, activate, boost, expand…all have stimulants. I emailed the company complaining about not listing ingredients before soliciting orders…zero response. I can find an alternative to their shakes.

Everything else gives me headaches. As far as the white willow bark goes, I would add I buy a white willow bark cream from our health food store. It really helps with tension headaches, etc. I just rub it into my neck and shoulders. I use that or magnesium gel. March 27, at 5: For everyone following this thread, I won the lawsuit that Le-Vel attacked me with. March 28, at 9: April 13, at 9: April 8, at Lmao I love this thread.

Hate thrive but I wanted to point out what ms Rebecca had to say about her nursing duties. Being a nurses assistant you clearly are practicing out of your scope of practice. Being a student earning her bachelors of science of nursing at one of the best nursing schools in the country I have learned what to delegate to the aids.

Let it be known that aids actually are not allowed to apply topical medications. Medications are the RNs job, pills, injections, topical, transdermalno aid should ever administer medications any of these ways.

Also, aids are not allowed to insert Foley catheters. Hospitals are at risk for infections due to Foley catheters because of aseptic technique so you are not in control of that.

Also, why the hell would you think an aid would be in charge of wound dressing changes? April 10, at 2: Thrive recently popped up on my social media. The promise of more energy and losing that pregnancy weight attracted me.

The first day, I followed the directions exactly. I felt so unbelievably sick. All I wanted to do was lay in bed.

Plus, the shake tasted and felt like drinking chalk. April 12, at Can you comment about pruvit? Taking a ketone powder and mixing in different ways? Believed to be a pyramid scheme. April 12, at 1: April 13, at 8: You can buy KetoCaNa on Amazon hassle free which is the same product that the pyramid scheme Pruvit uses to entice you to join and recruit for them.

Why pay more than you have to? May 18, at 5: I am not for or against Le-vel or any other MLM, just doing some research. I would like to voice my opinion about the use of the phrase pyramid scheme.

A MLM business model is no more a pyramid scheme than any other business on the planet. A national VP of sales hires a regional VP of saleswho hires area sales managers who hire sales people to sell and they all make salaries and bonuses of the sales volume of the actual sales people at the bottom. That sounds like a scam to me.

In any case, can we agree that the sales people are typically paid a salary especially at the VP level and it comes with benefits such as healthcare, dental, paid vacation, etc.? No one would say that IBM is an MLM. Angry fat geek says. May 29, at 2: Hope everyone that reads any of this does inevitably make their own choices in their own life.

Yes, everyone gets to make their own choices, but people should be informed to make those decisions. May 30, at 2: Show me the recipts. I know of no less than 10 people who are trying to hawk this crap right now and so far THEY are all still fat, and sort of stupid looking since they all wear these stupid bandaids. CONGRATS on your win in court man, keep fighting the good fight, I am praying for the day another idiot is not on facebook raving about thriving and desperately trying to recruit more moonies.

Honestly — it is beyond annoying, mainly because not ONE of them has lost an ounce. Probably because they ALL have bubble gut from all the caffeine and then run for the Cheetos to make it stop! Not sure — but ZERO visible improvement in ANY of them and it has been months of this incessant caterwauling. TinaC LeVel Distributor says.

June 4, at 8: Truth in Advertising has pointed out with the adverse health effects mentioned here. That may be even be an FDA violation. Are there millions of people taking Thrive? Do you have numbers that have been audited by a third party? I WANT to get out and do things. Again, many more millions of people on Earth who do these things without ever having heard of Le-Vel Thrive. And keep trying to roar about something that YOU have not even TRIED.

Maybe you DO need to get on Thrive and be happy again. Like the rest of us Thrivers! Why do you pretend to know my lifestyle? Do you think she advocates chips and sodas? June 4, at 9: Oh yeah, I added my monthly spending budget up on supplements, coffee, sodas, energy shots, junk snacks.

Those are my facts. And I did my comparisons to supplemental facts. June 4, at Sorry that you were wasting money on supplements, sodas, energy shots, and junk snacks. By the way, which supplements were you buying before?

It sounds like you were spending a lot of money on caffeine coffee, soda, and energy shots all typically have caffeinated.

Here are some non-Thrive articles I wrote that may have helped you with your spending for that:. How Much is Your Caffeine Costing You? Save Money on Energy Drinks and Caffeine 3. How Much is Your Coffee Costing You? Brewing Coffee at Home vs. Buying at a Coffee Shop. As I explained, you can plug the numbers in this online calculator. So the question you should ask yourself is this: Tina, where do you suppose all your support will be when the bottom falls out as it almost always does with these scams?

Do you really think they are going to carry you? I spend a fraction of what that crap costs. Save your shill work for those simple enough to buy it. Le-vel, when the pizza calls your name, eat it and add a second patch. June 5, at 1: Tina Crowder LeVel Distributor said: Caffeine and energy boosters are probably the last thing you need.

Admonishing people to gorge on chips and sodas simply because they disagree with your nonsense about Thrive is hostile and sociopathic. The comparison is asinine and misleading — par for the course for MLM. They are highly effective, cost pennies on the dollar compared to Thrive, and negate the need to participate in an exploitive con game. June 5, at 8: Well, Scott, If the bottom falls out, the bottom falls out. See anything healthier going on.

Just my opinion here…. I am doing that now. I have the motivation and energy to do it now. I check my HR and I run about 75 to Higher when I exercise. Now, keep in mind that every BODY is different. Good for you in your supplement spending, and comparing it to what a female actually needs. Thrive gave me the energy to do that.

Am I the only one that everybody knows who I am now?? Well, Vogel, read all of the above. This crazy chick IS probably cray-cray.

But let me re-cap for you: YOU calling me snotty? Touche, times a million for you. You know nothing about my income bracket. Nope, not the lease bit factual. Ask your buddy Scott if this is true.

I am able to spend the money on what I was spending before Thrive. I have a JOB. I design houses and billboards. I love my job. Loved all aspects of construction and architecture, so I got a degree in it. What was that about overty-level wages?? If they want to try it, I can get it for them. The rest is up to them. Like it was for me.

And so on and so on. I DO compare Thrive to soda, because it IS a beverage. I love my shake. It replaced my coffee. Beacuse every body is different.

HOW MUCH MONEY DOES A DENTIST MAKE?!?

It does tide me over through the morning and keeps a lasso in on what I NEED to eat. Slap it on and go. I was a cup of coffee drinker a day in the morning.

Not really a coffee snob, like you made yourself sound like. I just needed a wake me up beverage. Then maayybe an energy shot, if I needed to punch deadlines in the face. Or it was a MONDAY. I tried them many years ago and I wanted to climb the walls! It gave me the awfulest, jitteriest, moodiest, most nervous feeling that I never took them again. CHEAP is what they are. Highly effective to what? Pennies on the dollar. CHEAP is what comes to mind again. Please, do not compare Thrive to that shit.

Excuse my R word. But there was no other word to describe it. And last, a con-game. Suck your money in, suck you dry, and spit you out even more poverty stricken than before. You win some, you lose some. June 6, at So you weight loss is directly attributable to exercise and not Thrive, obviously. Nonetheless, you were perfectly content in your previous post to mislead people into thinking that Thrive was responsible. How you could possibly derive motivation from Thrive is unfathomable.

Funny to a greenhorn dolt on their first day of blog surfing perhaps.